The Death of Civil Liberties—Oh look! Something shiny!

The Senate and the House both passed identical bills that eliminate the right to fair trial, also known as habeas corpus for “enemy combatants.” Enemy combatants, it turns out means “whomever Bush wants to call an enemy combatant.”

I could write an extended rant about how our democracy has finally bitten the dust. I could write about how 219 out of the 233 Republicans in the house voted to stab us–all of us–in the back for short term political gain. I could mention that only 1 Republican in the Senate voted against this atrocity. I could lament the fact that I voted for the party that has turned against an 800 year tradition of freedom.

I could point out that while today’s “enemy combatants” are Muslim fundamentalists, Christian fundamentalists might not be all that far behind.

I could do all that, but it would really depress me. So, instead, here’s a funny picture I found on Flickr.

Just how much are you going to pay for those mangos?

EDIT: Added link to Flickr page for the photo that I found. Welcome Reddit readers!

16 thoughts on “The Death of Civil Liberties—Oh look! Something shiny!

  1. That bill will last at least as long as the war on terror, which could be decades or forever. Sure, the supreme court could strike it down, but it’s important to note that the supreme court can’t enforce its own decisions. That job is left to congress and the executive branch, neither of which would ever give up the powers gained under this bill. If the president wanted to, couldn’t he subvert the entire democratic system by jailing his political opponents? After all, it would be a danger to America if we changed horses midstream…

  2. If the president wanted to, couldn’t he subvert the entire democratic system by jailing his political opponents?

    I was originally going to say that the American people would rise up against that kind of abuse, but now that I think about it, I’m not so sure. I’m starting to think that if this doesn’t shake people up, nothing will.

    After all, it would be a danger to America if we changed horses midstream…

    Oddly enough, that’s why I voted for Bush. I wasn’t happy with Bush on his domestic issues, but I was sure that Kerry would bungle the Iraq war. Now Bush has completely bungled the Iraq war and his only legitimate reason for going to war–WMD’s–has been proven to be a fraud. (Whether that fraud was intentional or not is a matter of debate.)

    I really wish there was a third party with a chance of winning.

  3. This bill will last forever, until the Republic is restored through Revolution. This is just the tip of the iceberg, expect to witness, or at least hear about, raids in the middle of the night, dragging political dissenters into the street. You will see this within the next three years, is my guess.

    I don’t know the price of the mangos however.

  4. every person that was honest with themselves knew that the buildup to iraq was forced and false. i find it shocking that so many people believed the reasons the bush administration gave for the invasion, they were obviously lies. most people i know knew it then and they know it now.

    i hope you will not vote for a republican candidate again. i don’t think democrats are saints either, but at least they’re not war mongers and i really can’t imagine a president kerry shitting on the constitution like bush has, even if he did steer himself into the morass that is the iraq war today.

  5. I would not bet any money at any odds that Bush won’t still be President AFTER noon on January 20, 2009.

  6. I love mangos. But that other stuff you were talking about is soooooooo boring.

    The Average Citizen

  7. mostpeople: In fairness to myself, I had just turned 18 at the time. I had heard the speech that Colin Powell gave to the U.N. in a speech class and I had found it convincing. It sounded like he had real evidence.

    I would like to believe that four years of college education have sharpened my critical thinking skills.

    In any case, I’ll probably end up voting Libertarian next election. They don’t have a chance of winning, but it’s better to vote your conscience than for the candidate who will win.

  8. You people (commentators included) can’t figure out the price of the mangos but you have perfectly analyzed the world terrorism situation….hmmm. You “knew” everyone was lying about WMDs (some of which were used in Iraq on the Kurds)…hmmmm. Perhaps real life is truly more complicated that the price of mangos at Kroger and that our leaders should be given something of the benefit of doubt for trying to balance our safety and security and civil liberties. While legitimate debate is good, prayer for leaders is better, and support for them is crucial. If you have legitimate concerns tell someone that can do some good–express them to your elected representatives. Then you could work to get good representatives elected–call their campaign headquarters and help out. But the whining does nothing for me.

  9. That “something shiny” is the Foley story. There are rumors now that the GOP was warning congressional pages as far back as 2001 to watch out for the sick bastard. In my opinion Foley was “sacrificed” to distract media attention away from the suspension of habeus corpus: the top of every news hour now leads with more sordid details of the Foley story, and the truly alarming story on habeus corpus – the one that *really* matters – has already disappeared for the most part from Corporate Media. It’s probably lying moldering somewhere in a news morgue…a fitting symmetry it would seem.

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  11. I don’t have time to debate, but I did want to register the fact that I think Bush has done a good job with the situation he has to deal with.

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